";s:4:"text";s:11413:"King Vegeta also appears in Goku's illusion with Vegeta and Bardock. Ikr and that was a completely casual Base Vegeta with a low multiversal feat but people still in denial and say Heroes is wanked, I can't even say anything and just laugh at this point. After his people were annexed by King Cold's Cold Army he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people; this continued into the Saiyans' time under Frieza's Frieza Force, until the tyrant slaughtered them. The relationship between Bardock and King Vegeta reminds me of Goku and Vegeta. It's hard to gauge his power level from that. So if bardock fought king vegeta when he is a ssj, bardock wins no doubt. I doubt Zamasu can regen from erase. I think that Daisenzhuu 7 also confirms Potara's superiority in power as well compared to the Dance. Goku and Vegeta destroy. He shot one blast and it got eaten by Friezas own. Of Bardock is canon, then Bardock would be stronger as he went super Saiyan in it and also on planet plant he was very injured and probably go Zenkai, Bardock, because in the Bardock movie it said Bardock was stronger than King Vegeta. So that should cement it tbh. Their fusion would be completely unstoppable since then they'd be able to fuse with the universe and spread to the other 11 universes and other timelines while being incorporeal, they're completely immortal and only erase from Zeno (and Heart's technique) can kill Fused Zamasu, he'd have no time limit to fusion, he'd be able to create 100s of Fused Zamasu clones every time a piece of him falls off (basically as many clones as he can so long as he gets damaged), be able to use Black's scythe to create even more immortal clones that regenerate and multiply, gets stronger from Black's Zenkai boosts as he gets damaged, instant transmission, kaikai teleporation, kaioken since composite black has that and more. You must be his offspring." Not just because he's a much cooler character, but because it's true. Not. If anything its just a feat for DBS Goku (and its not even DBS goku in the first place, its a completely different continuity and its blatantly shown, he remembers Turles and Bojack, and Future Trunks stayed with him after Zeno nuked his timeline rather than leaving to a different one), and not an anti feat for Xeno whatsoever. try and watch the REAL version of dbz then say all that bullshit. The doctors claimed that if Bardock kept coming back the way he was, that he might have even passed King Vegeta's power-level. They might not be able to kill Zamasu but they could whup his ass enough for the ten count. Agreed too many people try to lowball DB without realizing that current Goku is 1000s of times above his SSG self from BOG fight with Beerus. If Goku and Vegeta don't mess around and blitz right off the bat, they win. He was able to survive against Dodoria who was atleast twice as strong as him. Potara Fusion was retconned by making it so that Mortal fusions do not last Forever btw, meaning there IS a time-limit for Vegito, just like Gogeta. Unless Goku and Vegeta kill Black instantly they lose. You look just like that saiyan I had a skirmish with before I destroyed the planet. Wait a minute composite Goku Black and Zamasu are like multiversal to infinite multiversal because of Heroes/Xenoverse and composite Goku black has zamasu's invincibility LOL you didn't think this match through OP. What I mean by normal circumstance is whether or not Bardock got furious. the japanese versions the only version you should count. But anyways, if it's the manga, then this is pointless because Perfected SSB is clearly established beyond Goku Black's capabilities. They scale to Xeno characters that are far above any DBS character. We do know that Bardock is at 10,000 though. Vegeta mentioned that he surpassed his father when he was still a child. Black's best chance is his clones, however, Goku and Vegeta have … Gonna end up going on a tangent here, but the Potara boost is something that's always intrigued me since Z. Okay here is darkseid taking blasts from the legion and he is unphased. I think that this is made most evident on his trip to attack Frieza. We never really get a grasp of King Vegeta's power level, as he is never shown in a real fight, though we do know that he is signifiacantly weaker than Frieza who was at 530,000. So the results of the fight would be heads and tails.Vegetaisthebest 21:34, December 19, 2009 (UTC). Agreed it's likely going to be bigger and probably allow Fu to control it or have something to make him stronger or something like that. Pretty sure the rival boost was not retconned. Agreed, universal+/multi universal is a much more plausible and logical rating for his AP atm. Like Goku, he was not fighting for selfish desires; saving the future of himself, his people, his son, and ending Frieza’s reign of tyranny. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. This is shown against 4 of Dodoria’s elites, the assault when he headed to Frieza’s ship, and the blast that he conjured up to attack Frieza. I imagine that this is the same for the king and Bardock. If it's the anime, then it's very different. When he goes super saiyan it's no competition obviously. Can Darksied teleport or does he have some means of moving beyond mach speeds? ^ Also, during his fight with Frieza's low-class soldiers King Vegeta was dog-piled by multiple soldiers (WAY less than Bardock fought; and Bardock was overwhelming said soldiers) and King Vegeta had difficulty getting them off for a few seconds. By the way, when goku said he didn't care, I think he was just saying that he didn't care that frieza beat his father, cause goku thought his fight with frieza would turn out differently than when bardock fought frieza.SonGoten77 (talk) 01:18, November 22, 2012 (UTC). Goku and Vegeta wouldn't need to fuse in order to win. I think context needs to be addressed here. he just got inspiration from it and stuck in a panel of bardock. People like to say Goku has no speed feats and only scaling but he literally has one of the best combat speed feats in DBS himself, and in the GT continuity it was he himself who performed the best speed feat to date in the history of the entire DB franchise, I swear people downplay the shit out of him without even watching the show. Agreed, I see it as to big of a high ball especially when erasing all 12 universes instantly is supposed to be impressive to everyone not named Zeno. Again, not a great feat of strength. Darkseid for the win for me he could easily swat them away. The saiyans are a kind of race that power is everything, given time King Vegeta might surpass bardock.Bardock's ability to get stronger when he comes close to death is activated alot more because he actually fights alot more. When the Elder Kai made that statement, Goku was against a foe that was seemingly invincible at the time (Buutenks), and their trump card in form of Ultimate Gohan was licking the dirt at that point. Bardock was able to defeat Dodoria's Elite AND survive a mouth energy wave, then, while wounded, fought off hundreds of Freeza's soldiers (WAY more than King Vegeta did) so if you accept the filler clip of King Vegeta in Freeza's ship Bardock is stronger. CN Leave Me A Message Contribs 23:46, February 7, 2013 (UTC), and bardock survived a whole death ball/supernova to the face. DESCARGA EL RAP: https://goo.gl/XnbuwJ¡MÁS INFORMACIÓN AQUÍ!INSTRUMENTAL POR: https://goo.gl/eD4dnYEscenas animadas de: https://goo.gl/a79exBUna suculenta batalla de rap entre 2 grandes guerreros! Corrupted Z could be argued as too much due to him doing solid against Vegito. To be fair, the DB universes are far bigger than a standard one, but even then it at best reaches 50 universes per timeline, and yeah agreed its definitely borderline wank since DBS as an entirety even still only consists of 120-200 universe sized realms at most factoring in every timeline, which still isn't even in the ballpark for multiversal. : https://goo.gl/mZj35x MI APP PARA TU NAVEGADOR! SSJ3Vegetto (talk) 18:30, November 22, 2012 (UTC), I think Bardock wins because in the Bardock movie, it said Bardock was stronger. Type: Tien[King Vegeta]-Strength Enhancement: Maximum health increase by 30,000-Fighting Spirit: Ki power rises as health decreases-Master Throw: Stronger throw atk / energy blasts lose power and produce less shots-Serious: Atk rises as health decreases-Combo Master: Combos and barrage attacks cause more damage-Unleash Ki: Small additional advantage in clashes-Mirage: Automatically dodge all remaining barrage type energy blasts after 1 rapid movement-A.I. of Bardock is Canon, Bardock wins. So, its up in the Air in my opinion. Also explain to me why Bardock supposed attacked from Zarbon who's twice his power level and was 'left' for dead to not be enough to be considered near death experience. This is just my opinion so whatever others think is up to them as well. 98.225.251.65 23:23, January 18, 2013 (UTC). As far as I'm aware Zamasu was always in line with Hearts because of the plan to kill Zeno. But if we stick to just DBS Anime & Manga composite versions, than Team 1 should win. Goku and Vegeta destroy. "was considered canon by akira toriyama,". He's a saiyan, but Bardock is stronger because in the movie Bardock Father of goku it said Bardock was stronger than King Vegeta. They were able to overtake Black, back in the Black Arc. It's possible, but since he isn't in perfect condition makes me think it wasn't Fu or Hearts who brought him back and it was on his own. I used to hold it as dozens of times stronger, now I believe its much, Much closer. Prior to being Corrupted, that version of Merged Z, was stated outside the series to be roughly as strong as 2 SSBs. And no, the Potara Fusion is always superior to the Fusion Dance per Elder Kai statements in the Z manga, then we add the fact that the Potara has the rival power boost which the Dance lacks, and the Potara Fusion is stronger than the Dance by multiple leagues. You're right that there's a retcon there though. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to regen, hes regenerated from almost being fully hakai'd by Goku before, and is protected by the magic of one of the top 5 beings in the DB multiverse. 98.225.251.65 23:23, January 18, 2013 (UTC). Zamasu could still regenerate against everyone he fought so I don't see why regenerating eye would be hard if he could survive erase destroying his soul and body along with the space he's in. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Who_was_stronger;_Bardock_or_King_Vegeta%3F?oldid=1334989. I think it's multi universal sized tree since it's branches should stretch out to all 12 universes and not just U7, possibly larger if it stretches out to other dimensions like the afterlife, kaioshin realm, world of void, or even other timelines. King Goku said: "Goku & Vegeta should win this.I don't think Darkseid is fast or durable enough to survive against these two at SSJ4." There's nothing Goku and Vegeta can do to win since they are already behind in power to composite duo even if Goku and Vegeta fuse and stack their strongest forms, and even assuming they had the edge in power and can permanently stay fused there's still nothing they can do to put down Zamasu who would eventually get stronger then Vegito/ Gogeta or manage to overwhelm him with 100s of clones. ";s:7:"keyword";s:19:"king vegeta vs goku";s:5:"links";s:7508:"Laura Prepon Instagram,
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